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The Thanos Button

6/23/2020

19 Comments

 
In response to the overwhelming feedback to my blog post about the Thanos Snap, I've added a "Thanos Button" to Baseball Mogul 2020:
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Clicking this button randomly disintegrates half of the players in the database. It also eliminates half of everyone on earth, with corresponding adjustments to the population  level of each team's fan base.
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If you already own Baseball Mogul 2020, you can get access to this button by installing  the patch for Version 23.07. If you don't have Baseball Mogul 2020, you can try out this feature in the free version.
19 Comments
Chad
6/23/2020 04:26:14 pm

Seems like a really interesting addition! It’s funny, sims don’t ever take into account the unknown or crazy event. This adds a different unique element. I’m a HUGE fan of the mogul games, but I miss them since I am only Mac now. I hope this can find its way to an app or to Steam to be available for Mac download.

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Andrew
6/23/2020 04:29:50 pm

This seems like a really fun idea. I'd love to see more disasters added. What happens to the Dodgers and Angels after a magnitude 9.0 earthquake hits? How about global warming for those of us who play well into the 2000s? What if North Korea nuked Seattle? These could range from realistic to silly to totally outlandish, and would be a fun way to inject some variation and craziness so it doesn't feel like the same thing season after season (not that I mind that). No idea how feasible this is, but I think it'd be lots of fun.

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Steven Boisvenue link
6/23/2020 04:46:55 pm

If your going to do a Thanos button why not do a strike button as well.

Bring in all replacement players and once the strike is over you have to figure out whom is good enough to keep when the strike is over if it ever does.

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Matt pilapil
6/23/2020 04:54:06 pm

That's sucha great idea!!! Or how about family dynamics! Like a player wants to move because a baby or family issues

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Pat Howlett
6/24/2020 08:04:01 pm

A few years ago I had over half the players on my team and anyone I wanted to trade for all wanting to play with Joe Torre. It happened only once that every single player wanted to be with Torre. Maybe I should have tried to trade for him, my luck he would have said he wanted to play with himself too!

Gerald Ottenbreit Jr
6/23/2020 04:56:51 pm

What I would like to see is a feature added to the ability to export your team's stats at the end of the season that 1) includes the relevant stats of players you traded away earlier in the season, and 2) the team totals for all the stats (not just the individual player stats). I have the original Baseball Mogul, as well as Baseball Mogul 2017 and 2018.

That "strike" button idea of STEVEN BOISVENUE sounds hilarious. I wouldn't mind seeing that also.

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Jamie
6/23/2020 05:21:45 pm

The strike mode would be interesting, but it would be cool to have it as an option that it could occur as a random event. You could even have the economic model of the league change afterwards (salary cap, no arbitration, revenue sharing, etc).

A different idea, what about a team plane crash mode? Maybe too dark? It's a thing I've done for years in Baseball and Football Mogul both, by manually deleting the entire major league roster in commissioner mode. If it was a real mode I guess you could add a limited supplemental draft.

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Pat Howlett
6/23/2020 06:08:04 pm

I have been using the button even before it was added this year! Since I started playing BM a long time ago, I used it to eliminate a single player, Pete Rose, never liked him when he played and hated it when the Expos got him.If you look at his playing record, the last few years he was a player manager and penciled himself into enough games to break the hits record. The last two years the Reds finished 2nd place both times because they had a 30 hr hitter sitting on the bench! I go with Mantle's description of Rose, "If I hit as many singles as he did I"d wear a dress!"

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N E Van Anden
6/23/2020 06:22:33 pm

The formerly real top level professional leagues did have a disaster plan (team or teams wiped out) figured out. It basically involved replacing the missing team via an expansion draft with the remaining teams limited to protecting a limited number of contracts plus a limitation on losses. This resurrrected team would pick up the leavings of the missing team.
So, yes, that would be an interesting variation as would a change in a sports legal status such as baseball losing its antitrust exemption.

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JM Hart
6/23/2020 09:52:30 pm

In Baseball it's Rule 29.

MAJOR LEAGUE DISASTER PLAN
(a) EVENT QUALIFYING AS A DISASTER. If a common accident, epidemic illness or other common event (referred to in this Rule 29 as an "occurrence") causes the death, dismemberment or permanent disability from playing professional baseball of
• (1) at least five players on a Major League Club's Active, Disabled or Suspended Lists during the period beginning with the opening date of such Club's championship season through the conclusion of such Club's playing season (including any post-season series); or
• (2) at least six players on a Major League Club's Major League Reserve List during the period beginning with the conclusion of such Club's playing season (including any post-season series) up to the opening date of such Club's next championship season then this Rule 29 shall apply and the affected Major League Club shall be a “Disabled Club.”
(b) PROCEDURES. The following policies and procedures shall govern in the event that there is a Disabled Club or Clubs:
• (1) Mourning Period. The Commissioner may, after consultation with the Major League Baseball Players Association (“Players Association”), establish a mourning period following the occurrence that leads to a Club becoming a Disabled Club, during which Major League games may be postponed or cancelled.
• (2) Continuation of Disabled Club's Season. The Commissioner shall, after consultation with the Players Association, determine whether the Disabled Club is able to continue play until the conclusion of the championship season and post-season, taking into account the date of the occurrence, the standing of the Disabled Club at the time of the occurrence, the Disabled Club’s wishes and the integrity of the game of Baseball. The Commissioner and the Players Association shall jointly resolve all scheduling issues that may arise from prolonged interruption or cancellation of the Disabled Club’s season.
• (3) Restocking Draft. The Commissioner may, after consultation with the Players Association, conduct a selection meeting, at which a Disabled Club may claim the contracts of players from other Major League Clubs. Such selection meeting shall be known as a Restocking Draft or Rule 29 draft. In the event the Commissioner decides to conduct a Restocking Draft, the Commissioner or the Commissioner's designee shall fix the time of such Restocking Draft and the procedures described in Rules 29(b)(3)(A) through 29(b)(3)(C) shall apply.
◦ (A) Players Available.
▪ (i) Number. Each Major League Club that is not a Disabled Club shall, on a date determined by the Commissioner or the Commissioner's designee, submit a list of five players who shall be made available for selection by the Disabled Club at a Restocking Draft. Such lists shall be submitted by each non-Disabled Club to the Commissioner or the Commissioner's designee, who promptly shall make such lists available to the Disabled Club. If the Restocking Draft is in response to an in-season occurrence, as described in Rule 29(a)(1), then each non-Disabled Club shall choose the five players to make available from among such Club's Major League Active List as of the date of the Disabled Club's accident, or as of a date determined by the Commissioner or the Commissioner's designee in the event of an occurrence that is not a common accident. If the Restocking Draft is in response to an off-season occurrence, as described in Rule 29(a)(2), then each non-Disabled Club shall choose the five players to make available from among such Club's Major League Reserve List as of the date of the Disabled Club's accident, or as of a date determined by the Commissioner or the Commissioner's designee in the event of an occurrence that is not a common accident.
▪ (ii) Positions. Unless otherwise ordered by the Commissioner or the Commissioner's designee, after consultation with the Players Association, each Club's list of available players for a Restocking Draft shall include one pitcher, one catcher, one outfielder, one infielder and a fifth player of any position. The Commissioner or the Commissioner's designee may, after consultation with the Players Association, modify the playing positions at which the Clubs must make players available for a Restocking Draft, depending upon the playing positions of the players lost by the Disabled Club. Notwithstanding any other provisions of this Rule 29(b)(3)(A)(ii), no Club shall be required to make available in a Restocking Draft any player who is primarily a catcher if such Club had, as of the date of the Disabled Club's accident (or as of the date determined by the Commissioner or the Commissioner's designee in the event of an occurrence that is not a common accident), fewer than three catchers who are otherwise eligible to be made available for selection.
▪ (iii) Service. Subject t

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JM Hart
6/23/2020 09:53:58 pm

▪ (iii) Service. Subject to paragraph (b)(3)(A)(i) above, each Club that is not a Disabled Club shall include in its list of available players for a Restocking Draft at least as many players who have accrued no less than 60 days of Major League service time as of August 31 of the season preceding such Restocking Draft as the Disabled Club lost.
▪ (iv) No-Trade Rights. Any player with a right to consent to an assignment to another Major League Club, including a player
• (aa) with a contractual provision that prohibits an assignment to the Club that has become a Disabled Club;
• (bb) with a contractual provision that lists Clubs to which the player may be assigned and the Club that has become a Disabled Club is not on such list; or
• (cc) who has a right to consent to an assignment pursuant to Article XIX(A)(1) of the Basic Agreement (Consent to Assignment), may not be made available for selection at a Restocking Draft, unless such player has waived such rights in writing and in accordance with the provisions of Article XIX(A)(1) of the Basic Agreement, prior to the time the lists described in Rule 29(b)(3)(A) are required to be submitted. The Club shall provide a copy of the Player’s consent to the Players Association contemporaneously upon the Club’s receipt of such consent.
▪ (v) Availability. Each Club warrants that each player it makes available for selection at a Restocking Draft is physically fit, not on a Suspended, Restricted, Disqualified, or Ineligible List and capable of playing immediately upon selection by a Disabled Club.
◦ (B) Conduct of Restocking Draft. The Commissioner or the Commissioner's designee shall fix the time and place of each Restocking Draft. A Restocking Draft may be conducted by telephone conference or other electronic means, as the Commissioner or the Commissioner's designee may announce in advance of such Restocking Draft. The Players Association shall have an opportunity to have a representative at any Restocking Draft. A Disabled Club shall be entitled to select as many players as it lost in the occurrence, provided that the Disabled Club may select no more than one player from each of the other Major League Clubs.
◦ (C) Effect of Selection. Each player selected in response to an in-season occurrence, as described in Rule 29(a)(1), shall be assigned to the Major League Active List of the selecting Disabled Club. Each player selected in response to an off-season occurrence, as described in Rule 29(a)(2), shall be assigned to the Major League Reserve List of the selecting Disabled Club. Within 48 hours of selection of a player in a Restocking Draft, the Disabled Club may, in its discretion, conduct a physical examination of such player. If the player is deemed by the Disabled Club’s physician not fit to play, the Disabled Club may return the player to the Club from which the player was selected and select, from among the lists submitted pursuant to Rule 29(b)(3)(A), a different player from that Club or from any other Major League Club from which the Disabled Club has yet to make a selection. If a player is returned pursuant to this Rule 29(b)(3)(C), the Club from which the player had been selected may be fined and otherwise sanctioned by the Commissioner or the Commissioner's designee for having made available for selection a physically unfit player.
◦ (D) Confidentiality. The Commissioner or the Commissioner’s designee shall make available only to the Disabled Club and the Players Association the names of the players whose contracts are available for selection in the Restocking Draft. The names of the players whose contracts are not thereafter selected shall be considered privileged material, and shall not be divulged by the Commissioner (or his designee), the Disabled Club or the Players Association at any time whatsoever.
• (4) The Commissioner and the Players Association may agree that it is appropriate to provide other relief to a Disabled Club, including, for example, the awarding of additional selections in subsequent Rule 4 or Rule 5 drafts, priority on waiver claims for a set period of time and the modification of the deadline for naming a post-season roster.

Frank Costa
6/23/2020 08:53:01 pm

What’s the point? Why don’t you work on shorter schedules, pitch out button

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phills52
6/23/2020 08:58:17 pm

Would love to see a rainout and doubleheader mode added.

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Pat Howlett
6/23/2020 09:30:20 pm

And be able to trade players during a double header! The Mets and Expos did that, a player played for the Mets and in between games he walked across to the Expos dressing room for game 2. He had been traded. I wonder if the Mets gave him time to change out of his un iform first! LOL

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Stéphane Théoret
7/10/2020 03:26:43 pm

I am from Montreal and I didn't check this out before writing But Tim Blackwell was the guy if I remember correctly.

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JIM S
7/11/2020 09:47:26 am

Joel Youngblood, August 4, 1982.

David Miller
6/24/2020 05:52:54 pm

And now we need an Avengers button to snap them all back into existence 5 years later.

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Guy B
7/21/2020 02:51:37 pm

There is... kind of. You can "Undo Thanos Snap" (replaces the Thanos button after you use it)... but the effects when I tried it were disappointing at best. I tried it with a new game and an expansion team (snap followed by expansion draft... talent really got spread out thin!) Played 5 years, then thought I'd try undoing the snap and seeing what happened. I thought either the players would be returned exactly as they were, with the same team/contracts/etc... or maybe they would all be added as free agents. Either possibility seemed a pretty interesting scenario to play. Instead, they were all returned to their original team (ok so far)... but on draft contracts... and even more obnoxious, all their abilities were wiped. I didn't go through and check every player, but every one I looked at was now rated a 58 (on the 50-100 scale), so the only effect was that everyone had a bunch of terrible players at the bottom of their rosters.

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Tim Irey
7/2/2020 09:27:47 pm

I replay the seasons over for the Angels. I wish I had the ability to reschedule a game when the real game gets rained out. A real life game can get rained out in June then not rescheduled till September which the roster can be totally different.

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