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The Case of the Missing Pitch

6/3/2021

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I got an email this week telling me that some pitchers in Baseball Mogul 2021 were losing one or more of their pitches in the off-season. For example, if you start in 1998, Jeff Suppan has 5 pitches. But then this happens at the beginning of 2002:
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His cutter disappears, his sinker becomes a slider, and his "four-seamer" becomes a generic "fastball". It turns out that this bug is a side effect of the way we collected pitch data over the years.
Before we had access to pitchF/X, we maintained a big hand-edited file with each pitcher's pitch types by year. Much of this was built using information from the Neyer/James Guide To Pitchers. But for the hundreds of pitchers that book omitted (including many who reached the majors after it was published), we scoured sources like Baseball America (and did our best to merge conflicting reports when necessary). This data is all stored in a file called PitchRatings.csv. (You can find it in the "Players" folder inside Baseball Mogul's "Input" directory.)
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In 2016, we added a file called PItch_Type_Frequency.csv, with pitchF/X data going back to the 2002 season. Now, instead of hand-editing each new pitcher's repertoire, I could just update one file. And because I viewed actual pitchF/X data as "better" than the hand-edited file, I told Baseball Mogul to overwrite the data in PitchRatings.csv with data from Pitch_Type_Frequency.csv whenever possible. And this is how Jeff Suppan's pitch repertoire got f---ed up between the 2001 and 2002 season.

It turns out that the hand-edited data had some advantages, such as including 37 different pitch types instead of the 7 tracked by pitchF/X. So I fixed this problem in Version 24.11 by telling Baseball Mogul to prioritize data from the hand-edited file when possible — and to not overwrite a pitcher's pitch repertoire in the middle of their career.
9 Comments
Dennis Toney
6/3/2021 01:24:22 pm

Great work to you and your team. I appreciate all you do for us that love the game and your game.

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David W Murphy
6/3/2021 01:36:32 pm

You do amazing work my friend! One of the biggest reason I continue to buy your products!

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John Reid
6/3/2021 01:45:54 pm

I admire your dedication.

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Jeff Glorfeld
6/3/2021 02:18:18 pm

I am continually impressed by you attention to detail with regard to details such as pitch types. Still waiting to see what you do to cope with the Ohtani sensation. Brendan McKay could still be a factor too.

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Russ Schmidt
6/3/2021 03:36:10 pm

I will start out my comments like I do every time, by telling you how much I love your game. I bought my first laptop in 2006, and my first edition of Baseball Mogul shortly after that. That purchase, along with all the subsequent editions ranks as the best money spent for computer/online entertainment.

I noticed this with a couple other pitchers as well...at the moment I can't recall them offhand. But I just figured it was a reflection of a pitcher either maturing and/or aging, and as sometimes happens, they "lose" a pitch as they age, or replace one pitch with another as they develop.

I have a question for you, Clay. Do you have any idea of the level of dedication and passion for baseball required to care one iota about Jeff Bleepin' Suppan? lol

Anyway, keep up the great work. You've got the best best baseball sim going....in the words of former Pirates broadcaster Lanny Frattare, "And there is nooooo doubt about it."

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Jason
6/4/2021 10:13:52 am

I just prefer to assume that Jeff Suppan is playing Baseball Mogul and is upset about losing his cutter.

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Russ Schmidt
6/3/2021 03:39:59 pm

I forgot to ask you in my last post of about 2 minutes ago. Do you have a ballpark guess as to when you'll be releasing your Handegg Mogul game?

I am anticipating many enjoyable hours playing it. lol

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Clay Dreslough link
6/9/2021 10:54:28 am

Handegg Mogul 22 will be released in August.

Of course the rest of the country still calls it "Football" so I might have to stay with that name.

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Philip Norris
6/3/2021 05:39:31 pm

You truly do a great job. I just looked at it as players aging and using different pitches. Or the coaching during preseason . But it's nice to see you took control and righted it.

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